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What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Started by Dave |
Posted: June 26, 2006 at 19:50 | |
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The June 26th, 2006 issue of Time Magazine had a short article on MRSA, entitled “Surviving the New Killer Bug” It was well written and should bring public attention to the seriousness of this new epidemic. However, one part of it did leave me confused. At the bottom of the article was a section entitled “What You Can Do”. The first suggestion was to avoid getting cuts and scrapes (OK). Next it advised: “Thoroughly clean even superficial wounds with soap and water” (Still OK) – THEN it stated, in bold blue letters: “Do not use hydrogen peroxide” (????) Why is that??? Does anyone have any idea why hydrogen peroxide is bad to use or why it should not be used on MRSA? Also, do you have any opinions about the use of ozone? Another thread in this forum warned: “Ozone therapy is very dangerous and does not work”. I will assume that the author was speaking about ozone injections and/or ozone bagging in lieu of professional medical treatment. I, personally, would not use it as an alternative to professional medical care – but might use limited ozone treatments in conjunction with medical care. Specifically, as a natural disinfectant to fight the spread of MRSA bacteria within my home. From what I’ve read, ozone is a much more powerful disinfectant than chlorine and is completely natural (the only byproduct is oxygen). It also supposedly kills bacteria on contact. So would spraying some on an open wound or even on my body be an effective way to kill MRSA bacteria on the skin??? Would adding ozonated water to the washing machine be a more effective way to kill MRSA on clothing, linens, and towels? What’s your opinion??? 5270
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #1 by ginger |
Posted: June 28, 2006 at 15:14 | |
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I agree with you. Im using hydrogen peroxide, ozonated olive oil, and the brand of silver called sovereign silver(they have a big web site and call in phone if you email them first. 5351
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #2 by Linda |
Posted: October 7, 2006 at 01:50 | |
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Hi guys, In my opinion, using the Manuka Honey in a sense IS using hydrogen peroxide treatment to a degree. That is why the manuka works as well as it does. Once it is inside a wound, it releases hydrogen peroxide directly into the infected area. Another thing that I started doing and I cant say for sure whether it's made a real difference but it certainly hasn't hurt anything by using it this way. I started using the soveign silver in a nostril spray. I didn't know if it would help with de-colonizing or not, but figured it might keep infection at bay, especially in the sinuses and throat. Dave, glad to hear you're doing well. I am doing pretty well myself. I see my surgeon next week for what will be the final follow up since the removal of the implants and the biopsy infection. The chest wounds are completely closed and have been feeling pretty good. Started this past week walking 2 miles a day. Hopefully soon i'll get my old energy level back and be 100%. Glad to hear everyones doing so well. God Bless, Linda 7871
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #3 by Ronda |
Posted: October 9, 2006 at 17:47 | |
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The hospital staff told my husband that was the worse thing he could have done to his wound - the HP. They said it kills the good skin cells or something like that. 7885
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #4 by Linda |
Posted: October 10, 2006 at 01:45 | |
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Rhonda, I wonder how many good skin cells you have in a full blown outbreak with severe wounds. The wounds literally eat away at the skin. I'm not sure about HP therapy itself, but I don't think you can go wrong with the Manuka Honey. But to be honest with you, I'm not entirely clear on how the hydrogen Peroxide therapy works. I am planning on researching it a bit so that we can better understand it. 7894
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #5 by Michele |
Posted: October 10, 2006 at 05:25 | |
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I have had the ongoing boils for a little over a year now. My doctor initially tested them and they were MRSA positive. I am on multiple medications due to prior liver transplant, Histiocytosis, and no pituitary function (all prior to MRSA issue). But, some of my meds are used to suppress my immune system to prevent rejection...which of course does not help me with this MRSA Battle. I have a re-occurence about once a month and they appear either in my scalp and/or my torso area. I am now on my 10th prescription for Zyvox. It does help heal the outbreak faster, but it does not keep them from returning. My fear is that eventually the Zyvox will stop working for me and I am allergic to sulphur drugs. I saw a new dermatologist today at the Univ. of MD Med. Center...he did a new culture, but it appears he isn't going to do anything different that my previous doctor (who was an Infectious Disease Dr.) I am interested in hearing about some of the more natural forms of treatment, such as the Manuka Honey. Also, are there professionals who deal with just natural medicines and treatments? Any information and suggestions would be more than welcome. Thank You and God Bless! 7897
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #6 by Ruth Wollacott |
Posted: October 10, 2006 at 07:10 | |
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I think the theory is the Manuka honey is high in HP due to the production method used by the bees, putting it onto a wound sets off another reaction which causes oxygen to be produced, it is the oxygen generated within the wound which assists the healing process. 7898
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #7 by Linda |
Posted: October 10, 2006 at 15:09 | |
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Michele, Are you taking any Vit C or any other suppliments that will support and strengthen your immune system? I have a friend that has had a heart/lumg transplant and they are taking several vitamin suppliments as well as their anti-rejection drugs. Vit C, ororless Garlic high in allicin, a good multi high in phytonutrients, and a good probiotic tab. Then at my suggestion, they are also taking the Mangosteen extra, and oregano oil. All of these things, especially combined are a very potent potion to strengthen you immune system and help keep you healthy. If you're interested in trying vitamin suppliments, check with your doc, then I'd be glad to help you with the proper doses for each suppliment. God Bless You, Linda 7900
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #8 by Beth |
Posted: October 12, 2006 at 06:25 | |
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Peroxide bubbles away as it kills the germs (which we all know) but what most people dont realize is the it also bubbles away the healthy skin at the edges of the sore. This makes it even HARDER for the body to repair the injury. Getting rid of the germs doesnt help much if your doing even more damage to the good tissue. Thats why you will NEVER see a hospital or doctors office use peroxide, they use a saline solution instead to "flush" out the germs without doing more damage 7910
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #9 by Caregiver |
Posted: October 12, 2006 at 17:38 | |
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The reason peroxide is not recomended is twofold. It is harsh and kills cells. Much more important is that MRSA has a yellow pigment life carotin, the anti-oxident. Our bodies produce hydrogen peroxide and other substances toi fight infection. This yellow pigment in MRSA (and not in regular staf) protects MRSA form peroxide, both what our bodies make and the kind you buy. Thus, it is more far worse than regular staf. That is why healthy people with good immune systems get it so easily and can't fight it off. I waited to see a doctor when I first got boils because I have an excellent immune system. I don't get colds or flu. This is a bug that our healthy immune systems can not protect us from. It IS easily spread by innanimate objects ( I lives for 5 weeks on surfaces!)and casual contact. 7914
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #10 by Linda |
Posted: October 16, 2006 at 15:33 | |
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Dave, I had a similar reaction on the chest scar incisions I had while I was still on the IV vanc. Directly onthe right incision a large looking blister appeared that was about the size of your pinkie. It looked full(like when you get a big fat blister thats ready to pop) only it didn't pop. The ID doc wanted it lanced and drained so I went back to the surgeon and he cut it, but nothing came out of it except a very small amount of blood, It looked like spongy tissue but no liquid, puss, or blood drained from it. I had a few others develope the same way at different times and at different stages of fighting the MRSA. After Applying the essential oil blend directly on it and rubbing it in well, it eventually went away on its own. Hope this helps you out. Linda 7938
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #11 by Dave |
Posted: October 16, 2006 at 19:48 | |
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Hi Caregiver, You mentioned that "the yellow pigment in MRSA protects MRSA from peroxide" -- I have never come across this in my research and would like to find out more about it. Also, isn't part of Manuka Honey's success attributed to the natural hydrogen peroxide within the honey. Can you suggest some websites that might have more information about this. Thanks Dave 7939
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #12 by Dave |
Posted: October 16, 2006 at 19:56 | |
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Hi Linda, I just sent a culture of it to the lab. My ID doc still thinks it could be MRSA resurfacing -- but my Plastic Surgeon saw it and thinks that they're blood blisters that will keep forming as the scar tissue heals. He says that the scar tissue is so tender that the simple act of rubbing in moisturizer is enough to cause them. I think he's right (at least, I want him to be). At any rate, I'll know in a few days -- when the cultures comes back. 7940
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #13 by Rick |
Posted: December 8, 2009 at 11:57 | |
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My Saga began in Late October with 2 boils,on the buttocks area,and they grew in size over a weeks time..I thought I had a regular spider tpye bite,and of course thats a classic symptom,or look it takes on..But severe fever put me in ER in Lincoln nebraska,on October 20th..and the ER doctor just sucked out the white cells (puss),and debreeded the area,and after 8 days left for home care and more Vancomycin,,unfortunately it came back within a week of stopping Vancomycin,removed PICC line,and thought here we go again.Im teling you folks,I had surgery for this Nasty bacteria,cause it WALLED itself off inside buttock area. Surgeon hopefully got it all. Ill know more on Thursday! thanks for listening. 15738
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Re: What’s Wrong with Hydrogen Peroxide…or Ozone?
Reply #14 by Lois |
Posted: December 8, 2009 at 15:30 | |
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Learn as much as you can about MRSA treatment. Insist on having an Infectious Disease Physician on your team of doctors. Personally, I think the vancomycin needs to be given for at least 8 weeks, if you can tolerate it. My MRSA started in an incision. It looked like it walled off too, however, it got in my blood stream and settled in my spine eating everything between the L3 & L4 discs. It's gone now. I am a survivor like many others on this site. Be assertive with your doctors. Lois 15740
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