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Long term effects post MRSA Infection
Started by KrisG
Posted: May 19, 2006 at 12:20
I had a undiagnosed pelvic abcess (MRSA) and suffered for months. After treatment was complete, there was still terrible pelvic pain, and still is. Lately I have also had numbness in extremities, and severe joint pain. All of this happened one year ago this month. Anyone else having joint pain/tenderness? Also are there long term effects of Zyvox, or Vancomycin?
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Reply #1 by Linda
Posted: May 19, 2006 at 14:59
Kris
I can only hope that there's no repurcussions to being on long term Zyvox or vanc. as I was on over 25 weeks of IV Vanc. in the past year. And I have noticed joint pain in my hands, especially the ist digit joint of my right hand. There's a visible knot there now and I have lost much of the strength in my grip.
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Reply #2 by Native
Posted: July 19, 2006 at 20:52
Kris,
A pelvic abcess/cyst is what I ended up with after an abdominal surgery on the 1st of June. Coagulase Neg. Staph. Did they drain yours if so how?

Native
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Reply #3 by Mark
Posted: March 15, 2011 at 14:45
2 and 1/2 years ago I somehow got a Thoracic Epidural Abscess (MRSA confirmed). Cause unknown. Emergency spine surgery included cutting off my T8 dorsal & 7 hours of picking, draining, & flushing abscess matter from my epidural canal & installation of a drain tube out my neck. Post op IV induced Vanc resulted in "Red Man Syndrome" (Stephens Johnson Syn.) & renal failure. Vanc was replaced with IV induced Rocephin & Cubisin for 8 weeks. Even with a Pain Management Orthopedic MD issuing large amounts of leading edge pain meds & working with a Psychiatrist for PTSD, I am not able to sustain any substantial strength, nor can I improve organizational, executive, or hearing cognitive disorders. BOTTOM LINE: I CAN WALK ABOUT 50 FT OUTSIDE; ALL MOTOR SKILLS RETURNED; BUT I HAVE CHRONIC FATIGUE; AND what seems to be extreme FIBROMYALGIA. If I do too much one day, I’ll be unable to get out of bed for 2 days. Stimulants like herbal ephdra, guarana seed, & caffeine help a lot! I’M 56 - WILL I EVER GET MY STRENGTH BACK? WOULD HYPERBARIC OXYGEN COMPRESSION HELP ME? AM I JUST LUCKY TO BE ALIVE? What are your thoughts?
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Reply #4 by ladyk
Posted: March 17, 2011 at 19:01
Mark -

In my opinion…
Yes, you are lucky to be alive, and as with any serious illness, most often we are not 100% the same again.

First couple of things that come to mind when reading your post… are all open surgical wound(s) healed completely with no re-occurrence of infection at site(s)? And, have you considered seeing a neurologist due to complications you’ve outlined? Neurology deals with disorders of the nervous system. Specifically, the diagnosis and treatment of all categories of disease involving the central, peripheral, and autonomic nervous systems. This may be another avenue worthy of your investigation. Also, has any medical professional posed the option of having a bone marrow culture?

Immune Support
It is important to build a better body by supplementing the body with that which it lacks from diet. Have you attempted to boost your immune system? Immune support is as important as topical care when it comes to MRSA. Since we are all unique, our requirements are particular to us, with consideration of pre-existing compromising health factors, meds, etc. It would be important to list all meds you ingest routinely in order to research any contraindications between your meds and supplements you might consider taking.


Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy (HBOT) Information
While hyperbaric oxygen therapy was initially used in treating divers with decompression sickness, its role has now expanded as part of the treatment plans for many other illnesses and medical conditions. *Although hyperbaric oxygen therapy in itself will not cure such conditions, it can be an important supplement to other means of treatment such as surgery, antibiotics and wound care.
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HBOT allows the blood to carry more oxygen to the tissues, promoting new tissue and blood vessel growth, and assisting in the healing process by permitting skin grafting or spontaneous healing. A high level of oxygen in the blood helps to fight infections caused by a variety of bacteria, ‘some’ that only live in the absence of oxygen. It also enables white blood cells to destroy many kinds of bacteria more efficiently.

The length and frequency of treatments will be individualized for each patient and their condition. For most conditions patients are treated once or twice a day and treatments may last 1-2 ½ hours. Some emergency conditions will require only one or two treatments. In most cases of wound healing support, the effects are gradual and 20 to 40 treatments may be required.

The most common potential side effect during treatment is barotrauma to the ears and sinuses caused by pressure changes. To minimize this potential side effect, patients learn techniques to promote adequate clearing of the ears during compression (similar to clearing your ears on an airplane).

Other side effects are rarer, but may include oxygen toxicity which affects only 1 person in 10,000.

con't
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Reply #5 by ladyk
Posted: March 17, 2011 at 19:06
After a large number of treatments some changes in vision may be noticed by a few patients. Any changes usually return to pre-treatment vision levels in a 6 week period. Some patients may experience claustrophobia which can be resolved with relaxation techniques or mild medications. Also HBOT may induce accelerated maturation of cataracts.

In addition, a few patients report a "popping" or "cracking" sensation in their ears between treatments. This sensation can be relieved using the same techniques that patients use to clear their ears while they are in the chamber.

Dangers of HBOT (which can include increase blood pressure, etc.)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1114115/

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Informative link
Anaerobic Microbiology for the Clinical Laboratory
http://www.camlt.org/DL_web/974_anaerobes.html

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Biochemical Characteristics of Staph aureus
Staphylococcus aureus converts high energy molecules like glucose--a six-carbon sugar--into energy through a process called cellular respiration. Cellular respiration is a series of metabolic processes that creates energy in the form of ATP. ATP is an efficient form of stored energy that can be readily used by cells. There are two types of cellular respiration: aerobic and anaerobic. Aerobic respiration can only take place in the presence of oxygen. Anaerobic respiration, also called fermentation, can take place without oxygen.

Staphylococcus aureus is a facultative anaerobe. This means it will normally perform aerobic cellular respiration, but if oxygen is unavailable it can perform anaerobic respiration for energy production. Staphylococci being facultative anaerobes that grow by aerobic respiration or by fermentation yield principally lactic acid. Staphylococcus aureus also produces an enzyme called catalase. Catalase helps Staphylococcus aureus break down hydrogen peroxide in oxygen. Hydrogen peroxide can be a toxin for some organisms. In contrast, obligate anaerobes die in the presence of oxygen.

Methicillin-resistant S. aureus can be treated with HBOT due to its bacteriostatic and bactericidal effect on bacteria. These effects are mediated by oxygen-based free radicals, which damage DNA and inhibit metabolic function (protein and nucleic acid synthesis) essential for bacterial growth.

Strict anaerobes (C. perfringens) causing gas gangrene have deficient defenses against those free radicals and are susceptible to killing by HBOT. *In contrast facultative anaerobes (S. aureus causing osteomyelitis) and obligate aerobes, can detoxify free radicals and are resistant to breathing pure oxygen at normal conditions (100% O2 at 1 ATA) because S. aureus is catalase+ and dismutase+, while HBOT *(100% O2 ABOVE 2 ATA) is bacteriostatic for these bacteria.

con't
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Reply #6 by ladyk
Posted: March 17, 2011 at 19:10
HBOT raises oxygen tension in hypoxic tissue to level necessary for killing of bacteria by PMNs and optimal activity of certain antibiotics such as Sulfonamide, Amynoglycoside, and Vancomycin. HBOT also enhances phagocytic clearance of S. aureus in lung tissue. HBOT is therefore beneficial for potentiating the bactericidal effects of these antibiotics, and is a choice of adjunctive therapy to surgical intervention depending on the type of infection.

Protocol treatment:
HBOT sessions are given at 2.5 ATA for 90 to 120 minutes once, or twice a day. The number of HBOT sessions is individualized to each client and determined by the response to hyperbaric oxygen tests.

HBOT is labeled as “experimental” by much of the medical community.

The cost for hyperbaric oxygen treatment sessions range from $100 to $300 at about 300 centers in the United States. Many insurance companies will approve the use of the chamber when it is medically necessary.


Lastly, your caffeine intake is of concern. You wrote… [“Stimulants like herbal ephdra, guarana seed, & caffeine help a lot!”]. I get why you are indulging BUT - as with many drugs that mask your true abilities, so it is also true of caffeine! The supplements you mentioned both contain levels of caffeine. This becomes a grand push and pull (up & down) between stimulants and barbiturates, and can seriously overtax your system. In a word - risky!

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,
ladyk

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Reply #7 by Lydia
Posted: May 18, 2011 at 05:34
I was infected with MRSA during a routine mamo 2 years ago,they pinched my breast with their machine in 3 different places.I was told by my doctor to apply some special honey that you get in a health food store.My daughter spent 2 days on the computer and diagnosed me with MRSA.After a lengthy agument with the dr they did the swab and as a result l was given 1000mg Vanco for 10 days.Then different oral antibiotics for one month.Now l have high cholesterol irregular heart beets,l scar wreal easy.I also suffer from depresion.
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Reply #8 by Bob Anderson
Posted: May 18, 2011 at 13:49
Here's something that is cheap but very effective and you will see great improvements in days.

I am not a doctor of any kind and cannot give any medical advice and I certainly would not tell you to go against a doctor's advice; all I can do is discuss the properties of garlic and let people and their health care providors decide for themselves what to do.

If you will read the many garlic posts in this forum you will come to discover that crushed raw non-irradiated garlic (CRG) kills all bacteria on contact, including MRSA and moreover, MRSA cannot become immune to CRG the way it has pharmaceutical antibiotics.

Pharmaceutical antibiotics work by blocking chemical bonding receptors on the external cell walls of bacteria, provided that they can match the receptors but if they can't the bacteria is immune to that antibiotic and another must be tried.

CRG doesn't work that way, it penetrates right through the bacteria's cell walls and gets into the interior of the MRSA cell, causing it to swell up and burst, killing it. MRSA cannot become immune to that and CRG will work every time but it must come into contact with the bacteria. Putting CRG directly on a MRSA lesion burns fiercely for a minute or so and then the burning sensation goes away. Diluting CRG in water prevents the burning sensation and remains strongly antibiotic.

Bathing for an hour or two in warm/hot CRG water penetrates the skin like a giant transdermal patch and kills MRSA in many places at once. Deeper infections require more treatments than topical lesions. It does not upset the intestinal tract like antibiotics often do.

You will smell garlicky for a few hours but the treatment really does work, as has been said by several readers of this forum who have tried it. Often bathers find themselves feeling better and with more energy afterwards as well.

If you decide to try it, you have to be sure to get non-irradiated garlic. The Asiatic and Turban varieties of garlic grown in China have the shortest shelflife of all garlics so some big farms radiate their garlic so it will store a long time without sprouting. The radiation kills the garlic and its enzyme that triggers the chemical processes that result in allicin being formed when garlic is crushed so irradiated garlic has no health benefits.

Every clove of every normal garlic bulb has a small growing shoot in its center in a sheath in an otherwise solid clove. Remove a clove from a bulb and cut it vertically down the center and look for a little shoot with tiny leaves and if you see one, your garlic is good and has not been irradiated. But, if there is no sprout, only an empty sheath then the garlic has been irradiated and won't work.

The FDA will not let doctors recommend garlic, we're all on our own here.

Please explore our forum and learn all you can, an educated patient makes better decisions.

Good luck to you.


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Reply #9 by rick
Posted: September 27, 2011 at 13:26
I had MRSA enter my blood stream in my crotch area where i had experienced jungle rot year before in Vietnam. I spent 2 months on vanc, when i returned to work i was of ond on disabilty for 15 months due to persons coming to work with staph and strep infections. my employer was to put me on long term permanent disability but instead laid me off. I have not been able to find a job due to the fifteen months on disabilty. I am labled as a mrsa patient at the hopspital and receive a private room, I try to sat away from infected people, but what is the long term solution. I am now 65 years, and trying to appeal to the VA for help, beacause I have alawys had an open sore in that area for 40+ years, but the don't want to help me, what is the future for me and what are the long tem effects on my body
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Reply #10 by Bob Anderson
Posted: September 27, 2011 at 13:30
Rick -

Please read tjhe post above yours for many of the answers you seek are there and in the other garlic posts in this forum.

Good luck to you.
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Reply #11 by Amber
Posted: January 7, 2012 at 23:27
I was diagnosed with MRSA one year and two months ago (I am not sure how I contracted MRSA and did not have any open wounds when it presented). I was placed on a few different antibiotics before finally having success with an IV antibiotic. My MRSA infection was located slightly above my right knee. Since I was told I am MRSA-free, I have had a constant aching feeling in my knee. I also have noticed a lack of strength in that knee. I occasionally have a burning sensation near the location of my MRSA infection. I saw the doctor that diagnosed the MRSA and two additional doctors, but none of these doctors can tell me why I have these symptoms/feelings. I have been tested once (about six months after I was declared "MRSA-free") and was told that they did not see any signs of MRSA in the blood system. Does anyone have any suggestions or thoughts as to why these symptoms/feelings are still occurring?
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Reply #12 by destinyellen
Posted: January 25, 2012 at 17:54
Hi Bob,
I am very interested in the crushed garlic treatment for my dad. He has MRSA from a melanoma head surgery that resulted in MRSA meningitis. He was treated with IV Vanco for over 5 weeks Summer 2010. He then got Redman's syndrome. He survived and recovered fully. New Year 2012 he was hospitalized for aspiration pneumonia. They tested for MRSA because his legs, arms and torso front and back were broken out in sores and it was positive again. They treated with Zpak plus another med and he recovered from both problems. It is now over three weeks since his recovery and his body is covered in spots again. They are testing again for bacteria today and are starting him on another antibiotic until they get the results back. I am going to start the garlic treatment also. We own a hyperbaric tank and I am also going to start treating him as often as he will allow it. We had not been using it for months due to moving, etc. Do you have any testimonials on garlic or HBOT on your group? Thank you for your help. Destiny

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Reply #13 by Bob Anderson
Posted: January 25, 2012 at 18:39
Destiny Ellen -

If you will look a few posts down from this one you will see a thread about garlic success stories. Someone asked for a list and I had not been keeping track but then decided it would be a good idea to find the posts people have made when they have had success using the garlic baths. Now when I come across a success story on this forum I will post them to this thread so that people can see it is not just me talking.

I also suggest you go one page back to the topics menu and use the search function to search for topics containing the word garlic. You will find a lot of posts and each one contains some information and if you read all of them you will have an uncommon understanding of how garlic works and why MRSA cannot become resistant.

I've never had any experience with a hyperbaric tank before so please keep us posted with your results.

The most important thing is to get natural garlic that has never been irradiated. If you Google enough you can still find a few people who still have some good garlic but it is getting harder to come by as it usually is as we go towrds spring.

Learn all you can so you can make better decisions.

Good luck to you dad - I'm somebody's dad, too.
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Reply #14 by Barbara
Posted: January 26, 2012 at 06:36
I have had MRSA after having a kidney stent put in. I have had Vanco and Cubisin. Since May 2011 it has shown in my urine. After all these infusions every 2 to 3 weeks I have a 102.7 fever, chillc flu like symptons, have to go to bed, can't eat. I have Lupus so I guess I will alkways have it. It is terible getting so sick every 2 weeks. What do I do keep getting infusions or suffer through this every couple of weeks? Can I give it to my grandaughter? Because it is in my urine how can I pass it on? I have been in bed for 3 or 4 days two times this month.
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Reply #15 by jen
Posted: February 8, 2012 at 05:50
im recovering from mrsa with cellulitis on my upper inner thigh. i had an ok two weeks.
Two things i bumped my leg on my bed the other day. it should not have left a mark, but
the entire leg is bruised and extremely sore. since that im back in bed with fever dreams
and eating everything in site and unable to care for myself.
Also, following the recovery I got my period, it only last 2.5 days and was only blood
clots. Is this to be expected? Since the period and the leg bump ive had horrible pelvic
pain which wasnt present before. is the mrsa back or am i just still on the mends?
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Reply #16 by Bruce Snider
Posted: July 5, 2013 at 05:18
I had a MRSA abcess in my spine two and a half years ago. I had to have a spinal fusion don ove five vertabra. One of the vertabra sliped an got into the spineal cord crushing it. The long term effects on me are continuous joint pain as well as feeling like I have an iron bar in my back and almost no feeling below my waist. A one third micron bug crippled me.
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Reply #17 by rich
Posted: October 18, 2013 at 22:51
I have become allergic to milk products and most antihypertensives and multiple antibiotics including Vanco and Cubicin since a bout of MRSA in my elbow bursa twelve years ago. Continuous pain in most joints and chronic nasal congestion. I was diagnosed as asthmatic at the age of 60 after no previous respiratory issues. I suspect the MRSA may be responsible for multiple effects on my immune system.
I also had a total knee that reacted to a very minor coag neg staph and needed revision within three weeks. The subsequent antibiotic therapy was initiated as if I still had MRSA even though I have been cultured clear for several years. That course of cubicin was used only because I also developed RED MAN Syndrome with Vanco. I became reactive to the cubicin to the point the compounding Pharmacist was reluctant to continue and only with my insistence and assurances would she complete the treatment course.
I wonder if others have experienced similar assaults on their immune systems post MRSA that have progressed over several years.
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