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MRSA in inner ear
Started by steve
Posted: October 7, 2010 at 15:18
I ahve been on various antibiotics for 9 months. Currently I am on SMZ-TMP-DS-oral and Mupirocin. The MRSA is in the bone surrounding my ear and the ear itself.

What can I expect? It seems impossible to kill this bacteria. I use an ENT doctor, should I try an Infectious Disease Specialist?

Please advise.

Thank you
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Re: MRSA in inner ear
Reply #1 by ladyk
Posted: October 7, 2010 at 18:03
steve -

In my opinion… what is most concerning is the proximity to the brain this aggressive bacteria (MRSA) presents when infection is in the ear. *Yes, it is my opinion you need to see an Infectious Disease specialist. Nine months of trying this and that has brought you thus far with no resolve… I’m not saying give up your ENT - just add ID specialist to your team. If infecting bacteria is in the bone (osteomyelitis), I believe a more aggressive approach is necessary - beyond just oral Bactrim. Has there been an MRI scan done to determine extent of infection?

Are you having drainage from ear? If so remember… MRSA bacteria is a pathogenic contagion, meaning if precautions aren’t taken to prevent drainage from spreading about, one can become infected where ever drainage touches.

Was ear cultured? Have you been on antibiotic ear drops? How are you using Mupirocin - to decolonize nares?

Since you've been on antibiotic therapy for past nine months I'd also be concerned about C-diff over population, and strongly suggest you get on a probiotic… as well as immune support in attempt to balance and strengthen system.

I believe you will find this topic link of interest.
http://www.mrsa-forum-usa.com/index.asp?forumID=13998&subject=Prebiotics-Probiotics

Learning all you can about affliction is the best way to protect yourself, and others.

Hope this helps.

ladyk

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Reply #2 by steve
Posted: October 8, 2010 at 03:50
I was cultured and had a catscan which showed bone infection without major bone deteriation. I will schedule an appointment with a ID specialist. I am also due to have major dental surgery soon. What are your thoughts on going forward?

Thank you,

Steve
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Reply #3 by ladyk
Posted: October 8, 2010 at 16:19
Steve -

Does oral surgeon know of your MRSA infection history, especially location? If not, it is most important to divulge this up front - for your protection, and his/her’s.

*Is the thought dental condition is contributing to infection?

My first impression is… do not risk major dental surgery/complications, if actively infected.

But… if dental condition is a contributing infection factor… AND you have full understanding of risks involved, WITH guidance from ID specialist working in concert with oral surgeon, going forward may be an option to consider. In my opinion oral surgeon being fully briefed on your history, will not go forward if infection is active. ALL must be completely prepared, hence the necessity for full disclosure.

You’re welcome Steve hope it helps a bit, sorry you’re in this situation.

ladyk

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Reply #4 by Bob Anderson
Posted: October 9, 2010 at 03:43
Crushed raw natural non-irradiated garlic kills all bacteria, including MRSA on contact and MRSA cannot become immune to crushed raw garlic. The trick is to get the garlic to where it can come into contact with the MRSA.

People who are allergic to garlic should use it only under a doctor's care if at all.

Creative ways are needed to get the allicin created by crushing the garlic to the site of the infection. Here are a couple:

The fumes from cut raw garlic have been shown to kill staph out to 8" from the crushed clove over a period of four hours. cutting a clove into a long slender piece like a tiny obelisk that will fit into the ear canal and stick out enough to be grasped and removed easily by the fingers. All surfaces of the piece should be cut to assure getting maximum fumes into the ear canal where they can do some good.

Crushing natural garlic and letting it set for up to 90 minutes greatly increases its antibiotic properties by allowing the maximum amount of allicin to form. It is the allicin that kills MRSA. The garlic can then be mixed in with water and every part of that water has very powerful antibiotic properties and the more garlic per unit of water, the more potent it is. Screen out the remaining particulate matter.

It is good to use for a couple of days or maybe longer if refrigerated (Do not freeze, it kills the allicin.)but after a few days it begins to smell increasingly bad and should be disposed of by simply flushing it down sink or toilet. It's so cheap to make that saving it longer than a day or two doesn't make sense.

A few drops of garlic water in the ear can work wonders.

One can gargle and/or use it in a neti pot to gain additional access to the area.

One can soak a warm/hot washcloth in garlic water and hold it against the affected area and much of the allicin can enter transdermally and benefit the whole area - as can taking a long soak in the tub in garlic water and immersing the affected area and the whole head repeatedly. An hour is good, two is better if you can lay still that long.

Only natural non-irradiated garlic works. Most garlic in the grocery stores comes from China and some of it has been irradiated to keep it from sprouting and that process kills the enzyme that triggers the health benefits.

Fortunately there is a way to tell if garlic has been irradiated. Remove a clove from a bulb and cut it vertically down the middle and lay open the two halves. If there is a small growth sprout or some baby pale green leaves in the center of the clove, it is a good garlic that has health benefits. If; however, there is no little shoot or leaves but only an empty place where they once were that might even be tinged with brown, then the garlic has been irradiated and has no health benefits.

Also, irradiated garlic has no hotness when eaten raw whereas natural garlic has anywhere from mild hotness (pungency) to really hot.

Hope this helps.
Good luck to you.

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Re: MRSA in inner ear
Reply #5 by my story
Posted: November 19, 2010 at 17:52
I have been dealing with it full blown for a year now. Initially my neck from my adams apple to my spine and from my ear/check bone to my collar bone was black and swollen to the point that my neck and check had NO definition and I could not turn my neck at all. I thought i was dying. I knew what it was and in my opinion knowing what i know now, I had it dormat in my body for almost 10 years until it got to this point. In college I lived in a $hit hole frat house that was disgusting and I developed a stuffed up nose and sinisus that NEVER unstuffed for ten years. I also at this time started getting really bad boils in my beard that I dismissed as ingrown hairs since i have a thick beard. So ten years later with my neck swollen, I went to my Dr who took one look at me and said it was MRSA that was septic and in my blood and maybe even in my bones. However, I told her that I was already prequilified for insurance policy that would kick in, in a week so I really just wanted an oral antibiotic and no culture so that once covered by insurance it would not be considered preexisting condition. THis helped with coverage later but ultimitly hurt my overall recovery. I was placed on double dose bactrim for 28 days and then 10 day s of doxycycline followed by 6 months of clyndimycillin and then another 3 months of bactrim again. It truns out that since my original dr didn't culture it or really make huge notes in my chart (at my request since she really helped me out by nopt making it documented as preesxisting conddition) subsiquent drs thought I was lying and exagerating the severity of my infection. I had it in every one of my spine bones, shoulders, back, neck, arms, legs, face, nose, ears(YEAH ACTUAL LOBES) head forhead, neck, and especially behind my ears and jaw bones. Ten months later, and still using hibiclens daily, it is just now begining to lesson the amount of puss draining from my ears, back, head, and lungs (sinus) however I still have them and they still drain hard dry black, green, and even sometimes blueish puss. I found that above all else, what has helped is an ointment called mucripurin and high daily doses of over the counter vitimens such as vitiamen C and NAC (n acyl cestine) the NAC is used in Europe along with antibiotics to get puss and fluid out of your body for bronchitis and normal colds etc. ALso today at least I can breath and my sinusu cleared after ten years of trying every allergy remedy and nasal spray ever made. WOw it felt nice to get this off my chest as my wife thinks I am making this all up and just self mutilating myself by constant picking.
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Reply #6 by steve
Posted: April 29, 2011 at 04:18
I am fortunate with regards to insurance. I went through 3 months on a PICC line of Tygacil and surgery of the inner ear and mastoid area during Christmas. Tygacil has awful effects on your body, BUT if it rids you of MRSA, live with it. I am still affected in the ear canal with something, no cultures. I ended up gifting my wonderful wife with a positive culture in the nasal area. For some strange reason my hair is coming out. Immune studies are OK. Just an update. I did go to an infectious disease specialist for the Tygacil treatment. Just keep fighting it!
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Reply #7 by Bob Anderson
Posted: April 29, 2011 at 07:04
Steve -

Read post #4 in this thread.

You can also make up some warm garlic water and use a dropper to put some into the affected ear. Others in this forum have reported success in clearing up MRSA in the ear canal and sinuses using garlic water. You might look into it and consider trying it. It might save you a lot of inconvenience or even suffering. The choice is yours.

Your doctors cannot recommend it because there is no FDA-approved treatment protocol that calls for the use of garlic.

It is something people have to do for themselves.

Good luck to you.

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Reply #8 by Sandi
Posted: April 29, 2011 at 15:22
I got MRSA during an ankle replacemnt 36 surgeries, 32 months of PICC line anibiotic and I lost my leg. If I had not had an ID doc I would have lost my life.
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Reply #9 by Bob Anderson
Posted: April 29, 2011 at 16:25
Sandi -

I am sorry to hear you have lost your leg.

If you had known about garlic and how to use it you might not have lost your leg.

Crushed raw garlic works against MRSA better than anything medical science has, in my view. Doctors are not allowed to recommend garlic because there is no FDA treatment protocol calling for it. Pharmaceutical companies make sure of that.

In order to maintain as good a quality of life as possible I suggest you read everything you can in this forum about how to use garlic baths - the life you save may be your own.

Good luck to you.
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Reply #10 by Steve
Posted: July 12, 2011 at 01:32
How do you feel about crushing garlic in water and letting it soak for a day in the refrigerator and drinking the water? Even though the immune studies report now appear OK. Just being careful after the past year and a half.

Steve
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Reply #11 by Bob Anderson
Posted: July 12, 2011 at 04:34
Steve -

That will certainly help build up your immune system but only if the garlic has not been irradiated. Irradiated garlic has no health benefits.

It does not have to be eaten raw to help the immune system, crushed and cooked in food will work but the cooked garlic has only minimal antimicrobial properties, Baked garlic that is cooked whole has none either; it has to be crushed or finely chopped and used raw to have meaningful antimicrobial properties.

Hope this helps.



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Reply #12 by d
Posted: December 11, 2011 at 02:35
i have MRSA in my inner ear and am going to have surggry in three days
on cleaning my middle ear infection .Can this get into my brain
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Reply #13 by Clifford Latta
Posted: February 6, 2012 at 02:15
Some of the horror stories are staggering...like hell on Earth events. I just got MRSA in my inner ear. 30 days of Zyvox 600mg ($131 a pill...thank the Force for insurance)and ear drops seems to have brought it under control...but from what I've read that can be a very, very temperary situation. I'm 76 years old so checking out is no big deal but I don't want to rot away and I don't want to infect loved ones with this horrible condition. It's the latter that really worries me. Is it safe, even when I don't have any obvious MRSA to 'touch' my granddaughter and grandson? Do I take a chance of infecting them every time they come into my house and if so, is that for ever? I have three indoor Pomeranians and they live on my bed, in my bedroom, where ever they want. Do they move the MRSA bug all over my house so that everthing is dangerous? Desperate for the answer and or solution. Namaste.
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Reply #14 by Bob Anderson
Posted: February 6, 2012 at 04:13
Clifford Latta -

If you will go back up to the top of this page and read all these posts, I am sure the answer will come to you.



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Reply #15 by Michelle
Posted: June 14, 2012 at 18:50
My family has been battling MRSA for the past 4 1/2 years since my husband got it from having surgery. I just found out that my son (8 yrs old) has MRSA in his ear. He's been battling a constant ear infection with severe drainage for almost a year now. Thank you for posting the information about using garlic. I can't wait to get home and try it on him!
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Reply #16 by Bob Anderson
Posted: June 14, 2012 at 20:12
Michelle -

Just make sure you get garlic that has not been irradiated because irradiated garlic will not work at all.



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Reply #17 by Clifford Latta
Posted: June 21, 2012 at 07:55
See Reply #13 above. I now have MRSA in both my ears and the doctor is talking surgery without much of a guarantee that he can do much of anything. That doesn't sound too hopeful. My Nose, Throat and Ear spealist has me using a an ointment, Mupirocin 2% followed by ear drops, Hydrocortisone and acetic acid otic solution ($138 for 10 ml)three times a day. I've been doing that for a month and now he's talking surgery because it doesn't seem to be getting any better. I am going to try the garlic rinse directly in my ears and I'm wondering if I should do that along with the prescribed medicines. Can you give me some advise or make suggestions? I also had a tooth pulled a week or so ago and I now have a rather large hole that does't seem to be healing....not infected looking...just not healing.
Namaste.
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Reply #18 by Bob Anderson
Posted: June 21, 2012 at 17:12
Clifford Latta -

I am not a docxtor and cannot give any advice or make any recommendations, all I can do is discuss garlic to help people learn more about it and people and their care providers can make their own decisions.

If you are not allergic to garlic, you might read about garlic baths and how to tell irradiated garlic from natural garlic and determine for yourself whether this is for you or not. Garlic water is definitely outside the norm but it appears to work for many people and in my posts I attempt to explain why and how it does the things it does in killing bacteria. Most people do not know that garlic kills MRSA and I am trying to help people learn about garlic.

It is my understanding that the allicin in garlic water works well in conjunction with most meds although Warfarin/Coumadin dosage may need to be adjusted as garlic has strong anti-clotting properties as well as being a vasodilator (widens blood vessels a little).

Because garlic is not an approved protocol to treat any ailment according to the FDA, each person who decides to use it, does so at their own risk. As a service to humanity, I discuss garlic and give people some idea of what they can expect in using it in different ways. I have learned much about garlic from published studies as well as books and have met and discussed the chemistry of garlic in ways few others can and I wish to pass on what I have learned from these learned gentlemen to ordinary people so people can find ways to put this information to use in helping themselves.

If you read the thread on garlic success stories, several people have reported cures of ear infections using garlic water in various ways. I cannot recommenmd you do it; however, that decision is up to you and your doctors. Ultimately, each patient is responsible for their own decisions.




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Reply #19 by pj
Posted: December 27, 2013 at 10:47
Can mrsa go to the brain thru an ear infection?
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