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I can't believe it!
Started by abcdeb |
Posted: January 28, 2010 at 22:25 | |
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Hi, everyone, I am sorry to say that I think I have another infection. It's the exact same spot as the three previous lesions, that itchy bump that I can't stand! My last one was mid-November. I made it two months. Before that, it was 11 months between lesions, with no special precautions as all. I have to tell you I'm in total shock. I have NOT been complacent! I take my supplements every day, use the Hibiclens in the shower every three days, wash just about everything with bleach, never use the same towel, completely wipe the house with the Clorox Wipes from the toothbrush handle to the cabinets to the chairs to the remotes, even my car, every week! At school I wash constantly. After the lesion in November, we went through the house with Lysol and washed everything from the floors to the walls and in between! There is nothing I can think of to do that I don't already do. I am truly sick over this. I think I must be one of those people who will get it for no reason at all!! It must be internal, right? There is no open sore, so I'm not sure if the garlic will work. I've washed it with the Hibiclens again, but I don't believe that will do anything. It's my lower back, top of butt, a bit over to the right side. Help! I am completely at my wit's end. I know I won't sleep a bit tonight. 16246
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Re: I can't believe it!
Reply #1 by abcdeb |
Posted: January 29, 2010 | |
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One more question - and thank you, by the way, for reading this! I certainly don't touch the top of my butt during the school day!!! And believe me, I'm well aware of everything I touch. I'm also extremely careful about touching my face. How does the MRSA or whatever it is get there? If it comes in through a cut on my hand, does it travel through my blood to that weak spot, where all the lesions were (3 in total)? And then is it in my blood? Please help me understand! Again, thank you for your time. :) 16247
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Re: I can't believe it!
Reply #2 by ladyk |
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 03:52 | |
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abcdeb - Since you have not cultured MRSA positive, I’m of the opinion it would be best to get lesion cultured. It is possible. I had needle-stick cultures done during one very serious outbreak. This was how I was diagnosed MRSA positive. While you are presenting an anomaly similar to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd lesion outbreak… it is the best time to get back to ID specialist and get this determined by culture once and for all. As disappointing/frustrating/scary as it is to experience further MRSA outbreaks, you have experience in lesion care, and know what to do to heal lesions/potential lesions. Before something went swooping through the forum erasing posts, there were many examples of MRSA positives who experienced 'cycling' outbreaks. The parallels were uncanny. Having further outbreaks is not uncommon. (sorry) I believe you are right. I have believed for years MRSA infection is not just topical. This goes to the debate/controversy of dormancy vs cure. Also I believe it should be a consideration that our bodies adapt. Both bacteria and host are part of adaptation for survival sake. Outwardly host adaptation would reflect fewer and fewer outbreaks. The struggle for survival between host and system invaders is ongoing throughout our lives. What you are doing for immune support has revealed a weakness, so you need to adapt to influx of immune compromising factors which constantly change in our environment. For example: we are in the cold and flu season, therefore the strain on our immune system is amplified rather than lets say in the dead of summer. What dose vitamin C are you currently taking? Have you attempted to add Oil of Oregano capsules to your maintenance? No shot vitamin B? Kept up with prebiotics/probiotics? I have opened Oil of Oregano capsules and with glove rubbed oil into lesion where in one day there were signs of healing. I’ve also done this with my allibiotic liquid gel cap but got frustrated with length of healing time. Abcdeb in my opinion before you try to heal this lesion, you would do best to identify it, rather than speculate and/or be put on blind antibiotic therapy, treating an unknown, etc. I’d like to refer you to this forum topic… ID appointment http://www.mrsa-forum-usa.com/index.asp?forumID=15962&subject=ID-appointment [“I’m pleased to see you have established relationship with 'forward thinking' ID specialist, and I agree it is best to take advice to get in at first sign of recurrence.”] That's what I would do~ Hugs, ladyk 16249
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Re: I can't believe it!
Reply #3 by Nancy R |
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 15:00 | |
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You know, I think the worst thing about MRSA is that it doesn't play fairly.It is unpredictable. I agree, however, that you have something else going on with your immune system that has allowed MRSA to regroup in all likelihood. I also imagine that had you NOT kept up your routine, it would have been worse. You do need a needle stick culture to identify what will work to kill it. I also firmly believe that winter is the time of year that MRSA has a real advantage because we simply don't get enough sunlight exposure. Even sitting in sunny room, today's windows and screens block most of the beneficial rays from the sun. It is one of the reasons that so many folks have serious seasonal depression. I know I'm considering light box therapy myself because I'm so sleep all the time that I feel like I'm hibernating! Phillps makes a special light box that is portable and suggests at least 15 minutes a day to help re-set our internal clocks. It may help your body to uptake vitamins that it cannot without sunlight. Vitamin D requires it to fully uptake. Let me try to find a link. It's worth a shot. 16250
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Re: I can't believe it!
Reply #4 by Nancy R |
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 15:03 | |
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Here is a link to the light box I was referring to. http://www.consumer.philips.com/c/light-therapy/11625/cat/us/ 16251
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Re: I can't believe it!
Reply #5 by Bob Anderson |
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 16:27 | |
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abcdeb - I agree that the lesion needs to be cultured, perhaps it is not even MRSA but a recurrent inflammation of some other kind. Know your enemy. If it is staph or any other bacteria, there doesn't have to be an open sore as long as the lesion is near the surface. Garlic soaks into the skin and affects the layers below as well. It's best to apply it direct to the skin in undiluted form if one is not allergic to garlic or its sulfurous metabolites. It is also effective when diluted in water but is at its most potent when undiluted. Once it passes through the skin, allicin gets in and around everything down there and will enter capillaries and the lymphatic system and be transported around the body and ecome assimilated with the immune system building antibodies from the disulfide in the allicin. It won't get far in the immediate area where it is applied but its effects will spread further out through the body by being broken down by the body and used to defend itself. This way one gets the primary benefits of combatting MRSA direct as well as the secondary benefit of strengthening the immune system as it spreads via the circulatory and lymphatic systems. Hope this helps. 16253
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Re: I can't believe it!
Reply #6 by Mom in Calif |
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 17:22 | |
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Our teenager had a re-emergence too, after about a month clear. I think that allergies are a factor, in addition to our trying to find a 'maintenance' level of supplements and probiotics. We have had some heavy rains lately, and everyone has been having problems - runny noses, sneezing, itchy eyes. There are trees in our garden that have broken into bloom months ahead of season, so no doubt there is a connection. Even our kitty has been sneezing (!) It's hard not to feel disappointed :(, but at least he has cleared up really fast. 16254
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Re: I can't believe it!
Reply #7 by Lois |
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 18:55 | |
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abcdeb Keep doing what works. Hopefully this is just a minor setback. I support the use of the Philips Light Therapy. I purchased a unit earlier this month based on the recommendation of the Cleveland Clinic. I noticed a difference within two days. My Best, Lois 16255
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Re: I can't believe it!
Reply #8 by caringaj |
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 19:59 | |
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It my experience it never has appeared as an itchy bump. Starts like a small pimple, 24 hrs later boil at least the size of a dime and feels hot, and 24 hrs. after that a very large and painful boil at least the size of a silver doctor. Time to go to the doctor or ER at that point. 16257
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Re: I can't believe it!
Reply #9 by caringaj |
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 20:03 | |
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Please excuse my typo. I meant to say a boil at least the size of a SILVER DOLLAR. I guess I had the word doctor on my mind. 16258
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Re: I can't believe it!
Reply #10 by abcdeb |
Posted: January 29, 2010 at 21:16 | |
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Oh my gosh, you are all awesome! Thank you so much for caring! You are all such calm and reasonable voices when I'm in complete panic mode. You make so much sense! I get so worked up that I can't even think. I'm so happy I found this site. Good news is that I actually am not sure now what I have (or had). I had one of the teachers at school look at it (she used to be a nurse), and she said the scar from the I&D in November is involuted and that perhaps I am feeling the bump along the edge. It's about the size of a jelly bean. It's been 24 hours, and it's no worse, so maybe it is a false alarm (and I'm sure I'll have many more, because for some reason I completely lose my ability to think like a normal person when I think I have it!). Maybe the horrible itch was dry skin or something equally harmless. Bad news is that there is a red, raised, itchy area NEAR it, but so far, nothing horrible. I tell you, this MRSA (or whatever) gets me even when it doesn't actually have me! This scared me enough to re-evaluate what I'm doing. I am going to increase my C (I take a chewable 500 a day) and look into another kind of garlic. And buy some REAL garlic, too! I'll also look into the light therapy. At school, they've asked us to open the windows for 20 minutes every morning, but when it's 6 degrees, that's not going to happen. So we're all stuck inside all day! Anyway, thank you all again. I truly consider you all my support and I'm grateful for your time! And maybe, (hopefully), I never had MRSA in the first place because all of my lesions started as an itchy bump, like a mosquito bite. If that's not how MRSA starts....(that's just my wishful thinking, I'm sure)! Hugs to everybody!!! 16259
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