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garlic
Started by abcdeb |
Posted: January 10, 2010 at 15:58 | |
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Hello, everybody, Wanted to start a new line because the one previously was getting long! I think I've found a website that has some of the garlic/allicin studies that Bob mentioned. http://www.alliforce.com/clinical/Allicin%20Antimicrobial.pdf For me as a "non-science" person, they're basically over my head, but they appear to be valid and reliable studies (although older - I'd love to see some recent research). Anyway, can someone who understands this give the rest of us a bottom line? For example, I take a supplement that claims to have not less than 5000 mcg allicin yield. Enough? Not enough? If I take the correct amount (and what is the correct amount?), will I be "safe" from MRSA? Is this the miracle it appears to be? I know I've seen garlic supplements mentioned many times by several people here, and I've started taking a supplement because of all your knowledge (and thank you for that!). But am I doing it right? Thank you! 16035
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Re: garlic
Reply #1 by ladyk |
Posted: January 10, 2010 at 19:04 | |
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Hi abcdeb – Ironic you were thinking 'garlic' as I was preparing website link to the Garlicmeister (Bob Anderson)! I searched through forum also because this subject has come up before. Below is what I found on the topic in discussion between two older posters mattb and Linda A… *Re: seeking opinions Reply #6 by mattb Posted: January 24, 2007 at 18:40 Linda - Yes, I agree and that's why I said I have no end date to the immune-building regime that I am now embarked on. I do take at least 3000 mg of Vitamin C daily also, it just seemed to be to mundane to mention. Also, I've discovered a new allicin product called AlliBiotic CF which contains *40mg of Allisure allicin (licensed by xxxxxx) as well as 50mg elderberry, 50 mg olive leaf, 40mg of oregano, 10mg of arabingalactan, and 5mg of Rosemary oil per capsule. I think this is probably better than the Vitamin Shoppe Allicin 6000 which delivers 6 mg (6000 mcg) of allicin per capsule and they both cost roughly the same - around $10 for a bottle of 60. 9021 *Re: seeking opinions Reply #10 by Linda Posted: January 25, 2007 at 14:05 Matt, This Allibiotic sounds balanced and a bit more powerful than the allicin 6000 as everything in it supports each other. So yes, you made an excellent find. It might not be a bad idea to post it by itself with all the info of what it contains and where people can purchase it so everyone will have another choice in the pills they need to remain on indefinately for a very reasonable price. God Bless, Linda 9031 And for best results on the garlic, your dose should be an odorless tab with a minimum of 6000mcg of allicin. I would take this 3 times daily, plus eat all the fresh you can in your food. From Linda A *AlliBiotic CF Started by mattb Posted: January 25, 2007 at 18:25 At Linda's suggestion, I'm re-posting information about a new allicin product I found for folks that are interested in using allicin at a maintenance dose strength for a reasonable price. (During an active infection, I think it's better to use higher-strength allicin products.) It's called AlliBiotic CF, made by NOW Foods and it's widely available. Each capsule contains the following: Allisure allicin 40 mg Elderberry 50 mg Olive leaf extract 50 mg Oregano oil 40 mg Arabinogalactan 10 mg Rosemary oil 5 mg At Whole Foods, it was shelved with the immune-building products, not the garlic products. 9033 con't 16040
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Re: garlic
Reply #2 by ladyk |
Posted: January 10, 2010 at 19:25 | |
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*regarding allicin dosage Started by mattb Posted: August 23, 2006 at 21:35 Linda has stated that she takes 6000 mcg of allicin four times daily. Cathy has stated that she has taken 1350 mg of allicin daily. There are 1000 micrograms (mcg) in 1 milligram (mg). Therefore 6000 mcg four times daily = 24,000 mcg which is equal to 24 mg. So...there's a big difference between taking 24 mg and 1350 mg, isn't there? Is 24 mg a high enough dose to be useful? While purchasing a bottle of Vitamin Shoppe Allicin 6000 is cheap (100 for $12), it actually makes more economic sense to purchase a more expensive product - more bang for your buck, dosage-wise. An entire bottle of 100 only yields 600 mg! I did find another allicin product called xxxxx which, like xxxxx, is 180 mg of allicin per capsule. Seems like a good compromise between price and strength. 7194 *Re: regarding allicin dosage Reply #1 by Linda Posted: August 24, 2006 at 14:47 Matt, My dose of 6000mcg 4 times daily is now my maintainance dose. Plus I also take an odorless garlic tab 4 times daily. You see, garlic itself has so many healing properties in it that you really get a huge benefit from taking it. Although allicin and allin are the properties in garlic that are antibacterial, and have the antibiotic healing properties, you don't get all the other healing properties that garlic has to offer. When we are in the midst of fighting this beast, the xxxxx and xxxxx are probably more beneficial all around(cost factor, strength, dosages) But if you want to get all the healing benefits of garlic, you also need to be taking a dose 3-4 times daily in addition to the isolated allicin. Just very quickly for those of you who aren't familiar with garlics healing properties. Garlic contains 33 isolated compounds that include the allicin and aliin. You already know that the allicin and alliin are the substances responsible for garlics antibacterial and anti-inflammatory effects. But garlic also contains a cholesterol and lipid lowering effect, a mitogenetic factor that stimulates cell growth and rejuvenating qualities, a anti-hemolytic factor that helps in treatments of anemia, an anti-arthritic factor, a sugar regulating factor, and anti-coagulant factor, as well as the antioxidant factor. And finally, garlic is an excellent source of biologically active selenium, which has an antiartherosclerotic property(preventing platelet adhesion and clot formation) and normalizes blood pressure and protects against infections. This is why garlic is an important building block in re-building your immune system. So use the isolated allicin/alliin when we are in the throws of fighting this beast, and then make sure you remain on a maintenance dose of it and take an odorless garlic tab 2 to 4 times daily for optimal health. Linda 7205 - Hope this helps. How are you feeling? ladyk 16043
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Re: garlic
Reply #3 by abcdeb |
Posted: January 10, 2010 at 21:30 | |
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Ladyk, As my students say, you are awesome!!! Thank you for putting that all together. I truly appreciate all the time you've given me (and everybody else, too). It's just what I was looking for! I've read Bob's article, too. I'm so glad I found you. I'm doing great, I think! As you may remember, I don't know what I had because it was never cultured. I had three lesions in the same place (lower back) in two years. I know how lucky I am that a simple week of antibiotics and one I&D is all I've needed. I continue my wiping, gelling, bleaching, bathing, and supplements because I've learned from here that as soon as you loosen up, the MRSA may return (although I'll up the garlic dosage). I'm also trying to be extra careful because the ID doctor said I work in a "cesspool". Again, you guys are wonderful. Thanks for helping me feel better! :) And I hope YOU are well! 16044
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