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gram positive cocci
Started by john
Posted: August 31, 2007 at 01:04
looking for help,been on clindymissin iv for 5 days,no help.have infection on my shoulders,spread to my calfs.been taking lots of garlic tabs,turmeric,and an asssortment of immune building holistic stuff.its like crocidile skin,it drys ,flakes,cracks.tried different moisterizers,aloe gel,derma e,very short time releif.colloidial silver provides the best but short time releif.not sure what this gram positive cocci is as i thought i had mrsa befor lab results.i wouldn't wish this on my worst enemies.lots of iv patients in hospital.terrible.any help would be gladly
Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #1 by LindaA
Posted: August 31, 2007 at 14:49
Is that all they told you? that you had gram positive cocci? Because under gram positive cocci, you can have one of 3 different bacterial infections. It's either A. Streptoccoccus (e.g. streptococcus pneumoniae)
B. Staphylccoccus (e.g. staphylccoccus aureus) or C. Enterococcus (previously group D streptococcus) I'm not sure what enteroc0ccus is, but I thought it pertained to the derma(skin). I'll see what I can find in my research books about it and get back to you. As far as the suppliments, you are on the right track. I would make sure to add a minimum of 5000mg Vit C in divided doses, and get on a good probiotic to keep all the bacteria in the gut and intestines in correct balance, otherwise, you will get C-Diff, and believe me you don't want to have to deal with that on top of what you already have. And it's been the results of this forum that the acidolpholis tabs arent' enough to prevent that while on antibiotics, especially IVs.
Also, many of the people on this forum that have dealt with the MRSA boils found that a mixture of tea tree oil and 3 other essential oils worked very well on the boils to heal them, dry them up, and control the intense itching. Use 1-2 tbls of the tea tree, and add 1 tsp Eucalyptus oil, peppermint, and lavender oils. You can also get some odorless garlic gel-caps and puncture it and use on the area. This also clears up fungal infections very quickly. And as for orally, make sure you take one that has a high allicin content in it (6000mcg per dose taken 3-4 times daily) I'll get back to you on the entero coccus. Linda
Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #2 by LindaA
Posted: August 31, 2007 at 15:02
I did some research on the enterococcus. It is a bacteria that lives in the digestive and genital tracts. They are normally benign and don't cause any problems in healthy people. And there is a Vancomycin resistant strain of this bacteria as well. As far as contracting is, you were either contaminated by an object or person or by eating contaminated food, but the most likely place to pick it up is in hospitals, since this is where it tends to originate. Hope this helps you out. Linda
Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #3 by ladyk
Posted: August 31, 2007 at 16:41
john -

It is highly unusual for a physician to address culture results in this way when presenting diagnosis to a patient being “Gram positive cocci.” Saying you have “Gram positive cocci” is not a specific diagnosis. As Linda said... specific bacteria fall under this category.

The classification of bacteria can be based on traits, such as...
-bacilli: rod-shaped
*cocci: spherical
-spirilla: curved walls
-ability to form spores
-method of energy production
-nutritional requirements
-reaction to the Gram stain.

The Gram stain is named after the 19th century Danish bacteriologist who developed it. The bacterial cells are first stained with a purple dye called crystal violet. Then the preparation is treated with alcohol or acetone. This washes the stain out of Gram-negative cells.
-To see them now requires the use of a counterstain of a different color (e.g., the pink of safranin).
-Bacteria that are not decolorized by the alcohol/acetone wash are Gram-positive.
-Although the Gram stain might seem an arbitrary criterion to use in bacterial taxonomy, it does, in fact, distinguish between different kinds of bacterial cell walls and reflects a natural division among the bacteria.

Gram-Positive Cocci
The bacteria in this group grow in characteristic colonies.
*Staphylococci form flat packets of cells.

Two species are common:
-Staphylococcus albus is probably growing right now on your skin.
-Staphylococcus aureus is also a frequent inhabitant of the skin, nasal passages, and the gastrointestinal tract. It can cause acne, and if it gets under the skin, abscesses. In hospitals, the development of antibiotic resistant Staph aureus (which is the bacterium) has become a major problem. Some strains of Staphylococcus aureus (such as MRSA, which is a Staph aureus mutation) secrete a toxin and can cause life-threatening toxic shock syndrome.
-Many cases of "food poisoning" are caused by staphylococci.

*Most Streptococci grow in chains. The electron micrograph shows Streptococcus mutants, a common inhabitant of the mouth.

Streptococci causes:
-"strep throat"
-middle ear infections
-scarlet fever (a result of a toxin produced by the organism)
-rheumatic fever
-a rare form of toxic shock syndrome

*Pneumococci. The cells of these streptococci grow in pairs.

*Streptococcus pneumoniae causes bacterial pneumonia.
-This was once a major killer, especially of the aged and infirm, but today there is an effective vaccine and any infections that do occur usually respond to antibiotics.

It would be helpful if you have your lab report handy to know what specific Gram-Positive Cocci grew, so you know what your up against without speculating.

Hope this helps.
Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #4 by k
Posted: November 22, 2007 at 22:03
My 18month old daghter went to hospital as a a result of a fit - that came on suddenly as she was not unwell before. She was only poorly for 4 hours and then temp came down and has since been fine? We stayed in hospital overnight and she had some blood tests. they released us following day, but then rang us at home advising we had to come back in asap as somthing had grown in her blood cultures. They said it was a bug and that she would need to be treated with a very strong antibiotic via an injections everyday for 5 days... they said they were treating her for "gram positive cocci" - She has to get another blood test after her antibiotics have finished. The boy in the next bed at hospital had scarlet fever and I have Laringitus and impetigo ? I have no idea what she has... or what she is being treated for... the doctors wont give me a straight answer and said its a potentially nasty bug - so is it just a bug or could it be MRSA... What questions do I need to ask to get a answer in the language I'd understand ???

Please help... going crazy with paranoid thoughts!?
Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #5 by MomaB
Posted: November 29, 2007 at 17:16
I had been suffering w UTI symptoms and a high fever over 102 was told I may have a kidney infection was sent for lab (UA. Blood culture) and was given Cipro. Today my DR calls to say my blood culture showed gram positive cocci. My script was changed to Augumentin. But I an still confused and worried. My temp is between 100 - 102 & I have been feeling this way for six days. Can you help calm my nerves?
Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #6 by RK
Posted: December 20, 2007 at 05:18
Enterococcus is the most common gram + cocci that causes UTIs. Augmentin does cover this organism the majority of the time. The doctor made the right decision to switch antibiotics. You should start to feel better soon. If you still feel sick after a day or two of Augmentin or symptoms worsen, go see the doctor.
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Reply #7 by JZ
Posted: January 2, 2008 at 22:08
My nephew (43 years old) was just diagnosed with gram positive cocci. He thought he had the flu and was treating himself with flu medications. None of the flu medications were working and his temperature of 103.2 wouldn't go down. His wife took him to the emergency room and they immediately hospitalized him. He was very dehydrated. He just got the tests results back and it showed he has gram positive cocci. They started him on Vancomycin and he will get 100 mg of Vancomycin for four days. They are also running more tests to determine which kind of gram positive cocci he has. The doctors said they cannot determine how or where he may have contracted this infection.
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Reply #8 by Iain
Posted: February 10, 2008 at 10:49
My wife started to develop a very stiff and painful right shoulder on Xmas day 2007. She had virtually no movement in it without severe pain. She was originally diagnosed as having a torn rotator cuff but that was changed after a couple of weeks to "frozen shoulder". On Jan 28th the diagnosis changed again to her having a severely infected shoulder joint. We're told the infection is "gram positive cocci". She has now been in hospital for 2 weeks, has had 3 keyhole operations to wash out the joint and is now on antibiotics (not sure what type) administered via a Hickman line which she has had inserted. Looks like this treatment will continue for the next 2-3 weeks at least, followed by a course of oral antibiotics.
Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #9 by ladyk
Posted: February 10, 2008 at 16:32
Iain -

Please read reply #3 above. You have not been given a direct diagnosis. As stated above, being 'gram positive cocci' is a general classification... yet does not tell you which bacteria has infected your wife. Unfortunately it seems if you do not ask the direct questions, some doctors are not divulging "exactly" what you and many others are up against in this epidemic.

In the case her infection is MRSA... this is an aggressive pathogenic contagion which can spread to any who come into contact. You can not protect her, yourself, or others, if you don't know.

Ask directly - Is it MRSA?

Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #10 by paul
Posted: February 10, 2008 at 19:34
Why do they keep telling these people it is gram positive cocci? Is it because they need to do more tests to actually determine specifically what it is or is that they dont want to tell them what it really is?
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Reply #11 by Bronnie
Posted: February 15, 2008 at 17:39
My father was diagnosed with gram positive cocci in the blood. Can anyone tell me what this means?
Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #12 by LindaA
Posted: February 16, 2008 at 15:22
It has been my experience with most Doctors, no matter where they are located or where they practice medicine, They will not admit that the "VERY STUBBORN BACTERIA INFECTION", or "A VERY NASTY INFECTION THAT MOST ANTIBIOTICS WILL NOT WORK ON" is MRSA. I lost my Dad on Dec 22 after being in a florida hospital, in and out of ICU for 89 days. He went in because of falling twice in 3 days, and he'd been sick for 2 weeks to where he wouldn't eat or drink. after asking point blank several times what KIND of bacterial infection were we dealing with, They finally told me 2 days before he died that he came in with MRSA, and STREP in the gut, and while there also aquired VRE, C-Diff, and another type of STAPH infection besides Aureus. So if they beat around the bush and don't give you a straight answer, you might as well assume that it's MRSA that you're dealing with. LindaA
Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #13 by ladyk
Posted: February 16, 2008 at 19:22
paul -

It is not my experience culture results depict ‘gram positive cocci’ rather they depict exactly which strain culture grew, as well as antibiotic sensitivities. There is no excuse worthy of using a ‘catch all medical term’ most will not understand when we are collectively up against an epidemic that is killing people. I guess it’s easier to say ‘gram positive cocci’ hoping it will buy them time until you leave the office without asking too many questions, rather than attempt to get into lengthy explanations (when there really isn’t any excuse) as to the hows & whys which spin fear in us initially over having contracted MRSA. If that isn’t wrong enough on so many levels, worse than that for me is their other great weakness of prescribing antibiotics before culture results return, which in hind sight are known to be ineffective in killing MRSA. This is especially detrimental to us since we are dealing with the resistant factor concerning this aggressive bacteria. Personally I had been prescribed 12 different courses of antibiotics. Granted I was battling 3 superbugs at the same time (pseudomonas, mrsa, c-diff) but my case is not unique as this practice seems the norm from the many I’ve talked with who at least have been on 1 course of antibiotics which is known to be completely ineffective against MRSA from the get go. The other odd comment for me is to hear the CDC state we have caused this by demanding antibiotics. I’ve yet to see patients demand antibiotics where doctors comply to demands. And even if one did, decisions rest solely in the hands of the one who holds the prescription pad and has responsibility resting on education, expertise, and oath. Hardly seems a defense to me.

I just looked up one of my culture reports which clearly shows exactly where the culture was taken from, what grew, and sensitivity recommendations concerning antibiotics. As I’ve said many times, it is our legal right to obtain our medical records. Culture and sensitivity reports do not mix words. Results are black and white. Sadly if we do not ask the correct and hard questions, chances are answers will be murky.

Re: gram positive cocci
Reply #14 by ladyk
Posted: February 16, 2008 at 19:33
Bronnie -

Reply #3 will help you to understand. Considering all things I'd speculate it's MRSA. Ask his doctor, or go to his doctor's office and request his lab reports. You'll find your answer there on lab reports.

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Reply #15 by cora
Posted: March 1, 2008 at 04:44
i was diagnosed with gram positive cocci=++ the hospital told me that the culture result will come out only after 5 wks.the thing is they didn't prescribe me any medicine so i'm suferring,always my throat is dry and itchy,i have to cough and a thick saliva comes out.i can i take any biotics without the doctors prescription?
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Reply #16 by samina
Posted: March 12, 2008 at 16:23
hiya everyone, I am a microbiologist and Pharmaceutical Scientists, yes gram +ve cooci indicates an infection in the body due to bacteria, that has been identified according to its shape(cocci)and +ve meaning it stains blue/violet. This will give microbiologists an idea of what bacterial infection the person has depending on these results. In this case most common gram +ve cocci are staphlococcus aureaus. MRSA is caused by the same bacteria, but it doesn't always indicate you have MRSA because there are many different strains on the same bacteria. hope that helps
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Reply #17 by john
Posted: May 10, 2008 at 20:03
I have been diagnosed with a rare gram positive cocci. I have had 6 boils and 2 including on my face... which has made my neck and face swell... i don't even look like the same person. they Pt me on 2 different antibiotices.. my question is.. Will this ever go way? IM in so much pain.
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Reply #18 by Maggay
Posted: May 12, 2008 at 14:37
I had a culture results that said that i have colonies of gram positive bacilli I was in Augmentin and no improvement was observed, i came back to the doctor and he gave me CiproXL but I received a result of my pap smear with a diagnosis of Thricomoniasis vaginale, the doctor prescribes a metadonizol creme, the symptoms continued and the dr. prescribes me Rocephin injection, i feel a light improvement, but the second urine culture results were grampositive cocci. I feel better but the symptons prevailed. what's happening. Should i go a infectologist?
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Reply #19 by Franny
Posted: May 17, 2008 at 20:57
Six days ago I noticed a pimple on my stomach, I squeezed it a little and just a drop of clean liquid came out. Didn't thank muca about it until 2 days later my stomach felt hot and was hurting when I moved. I went to the Dr next day, he did a swab/culture and gave me keflex, 2000 mg a day. after two days it looked redder and had seem to spread. I called my Dr and he said come down and let me see, he checked his computer and by culture came back rare growth Gram positive Cocci, Staphylococcus aureus. THe Medical report recommended Bacrtim, so now I just started my first does on this. If there is no real change in two days he said to go to emergency room and have him paged. It hurts like heck when I move and my job is mostly a desk job. It hurts so bad I have been taking a Lortab. How long before this begins to get better
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